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Al-Qamera Terrorism, Part II

March 18, 2008

Remember when I got stopped in Mayfair Mall and told to cease my al Qamera terrorist activities?

Well, guess what? Note commandment number one.

I’m pissed. I’m either going to send them a nasty email or show up with my camera itching for a confrontation–or both.

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  1. Man, would I like to go. Nothing would please me more than to be handcuffed with one of my favorite liberals. Conservatives and liberals unite!

    In my anonymity, I can be a real trouble maker.


  2. Scott:

    You may have the law on your side, but it may cost you your money to prove it.

    If your confrontation leads to any physical action or altercation (them or you) you may be arrested or cited for disorderly conduct. Likewise, they can file a complaint or an injunction to stop you. You then may incur legal fees to fight it.

    It’s nice to talk about defending your rights – how much are you willing to sacrifice if you take action and they fight it? Is this particular battle worth the potential risk? You might want to first approach the Mall management (and I don’t mean security) and explain your intentions and rights and get a feeling for the level of resistance. Once they meet you, they might even realize you’re not a terrorists. If you’re really itching for a confrontation, go in and start taking pictures – you might just get one, just be prepared for the consequences whether you’re in the right or not.

    Personally, I don’t see anything in that mall worth fighting for a picture. There are more unique malls in this country worthy of pictures.


  3. No one is talking about a “physical altercation”! And if one did occur, it would be me suing them, not the other way around, I can assure you. For that I would gladly pay a lawyer’s retaining fee. No problem.

    What I thought I would do is send them an email. I’d tell them about my previous experiences with the security personnel. I’d tell them what I have subsequently learned about my legal rights in this regard. And I’d tell them of my future intentions to exercise those rights.

    If I was feeling charitable, I might even tell them that I was going to blog the entire thing for the world to see.


  4. I’d join. Heck, I’d be fun to have photos of an Apple store employee trying to tackle me if it resorted to that. Not that it would/should, but I think it would be a hilarious photo.

    On Mayfair though, it doesn’t surprise me. Well, I shouldn’t say that, but it depends on who’s working security. Some guys there are nice and cool (had a friend who worked one of the places there) and some can be jerks.


  5. The guy I talked to was definitely a cool-headed fellow. He simply told me not to take pictures and when I asked why not he said “terrorism–you understand.” To which I replied “no, I don’t understand. I think it’s ridiculous.” But that was it. I went my way, he went his, no hot tempers.

    I’ll let you know if/when I intend to go down there. I think I’ll try sending them an email first, see what they say.


  6. Argentina was the worst for me. They grabbed at my gear and me and told me to leave if I didn’t put it away.

    Maybe an impromptu photowalk at the mall? 😀


  7. Scott it might be hard for you to actually live by the rights the constitution and law provide you so my advice is to just give up.

    I mean some of those rights and laws could be better than they are now anyway.


  8. I interpreted your comment “or show up with my camera itching for a confrontation” to mean something more, which is out of character for you. Staying cool, objective and respectful will probably serve you better in accomplishing your objective over going in with a chip on your shoulder “itching for a confrontation”.

    My guess, the mall managers in charge do not know the law and will need to check with their attorneys or corporate execs before responding. The “terrorism–you understand” comment was probably a blanket excuse to control pictures of the mall from a PR viewpoint. They want to see only pictures that reflect positively on the mall and therefore control those who take them. It wasn’t t0o long that any pictures of the fights occurring outside the theater entrance wouldn’t have been a very positive image. Explaining to them in email or in person may go along way in helping them understand your intentions, which are not malicious or negative with respect to mall PR, image or any terror plots.


  9. This reminds me of something that happened when I was in high school. For a class project we went to Bayshore to score some mall video footage from the outside and interview a few people (not anything different than your regular newscast). Well, we were suddenly surrounded by multiple security guards telling us we couldn’t do that.

    So we contacted mall management the next day and asked permission, which was granted, and we were even allowed to film inside (which wasn’t even our original intent).

    A few days later we were setting up the camera in the food court, and spent the majority of the time filming one of the guards who had kicked us out in the first place!

    Ahhh…to be 17 again.



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